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...The MSI GE70 I had returned was a plastic chassis. It had look very nice but after owning it a few days, it just felt too cheap to me. I'll be carrying this laptop on a daily basis. I will primarily use for work but will game sometimes during lunch
I'm still searching for reviews that will provide me thorough info about the laptop overall. I'm a little cautious on buying because of this plastic/rubbery chassis. It would be nice to know if it feels more durable than the MSI GE70. I'm also thinking about the MSI GT70 & the ASUS G75 because of their aluminum chassis. SAGER had caught my attention because of the "bang for the buck" cost but the overall exterior build has me concerned
This is what concerns meOriginally Posted by Eiennohi
I just got a a sager np8265, my first sager laptop. And I feel mixed about it.
The chassis: It feels quite plain from holding on it, but it feels unique knowing that you own a sager. the plastic chassis looks totally cheap looking at it from the sides. The nice part about it, is the rubberized finishes.Click to expand...
There's nothing wrong with Sager build quality per se. Also aluminum isn't necessarily that much more durable than plastic, because it dents. You seem most concerned about how it feels in the hand though. That is totally subjective and I doubt anyone can effectively give you advice on it.
The two brands most known for duraility are apple and Lenovo. Apple makes great laptops, but seems loathe to put a decent GPU in them which makes them at best marginal for gaming. The problem with rubber coverings is they wear. They're not nearly as pretty after a while. This doesn't affect actual durability though.
If a single 750m is enough for you consider a Macbook pro. The build quality is excellent, and the abliity to run both MacOS and windows can be terribly handy. Their build quality is top notch, and unlike basically all other laptops they actually have resale value. If they do break it is fantastically expensive to fix though because they are only repairable at the factory.
The lenovo y510p may be an option. It's got dual 750m SLI. It's not a 780 or anything but bang for the buck wise it's not bad. The dual system is kind of nice because it doesn't run the second chip unless it needs it, which saves some battery. And of course the 750$ price doesn't hurt.
If you got to go for the 780, the only one I would really touch is the sager. This is purely because the 780 is just so wildly overpriced.
The two brands most known for duraility are apple and Lenovo. Apple makes great laptops, but seems loathe to put a decent GPU in them which makes them at best marginal for gaming. The problem with rubber coverings is they wear. They're not nearly as pretty after a while. This doesn't affect actual durability though.
If a single 750m is enough for you consider a Macbook pro. The build quality is excellent, and the abliity to run both MacOS and windows can be terribly handy. Their build quality is top notch, and unlike basically all other laptops they actually have resale value. If they do break it is fantastically expensive to fix though because they are only repairable at the factory.
The lenovo y510p may be an option. It's got dual 750m SLI. It's not a 780 or anything but bang for the buck wise it's not bad. The dual system is kind of nice because it doesn't run the second chip unless it needs it, which saves some battery. And of course the 750$ price doesn't hurt.
If you got to go for the 780, the only one I would really touch is the sager. This is purely because the 780 is just so wildly overpriced.
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Funny you had mentioned the 8970m...I'm curious about it but concerned about AMD driver support. Although I have mainly used Nvidia gpu's for my desktop rigs, I don't mind going AMD with this laptop as long as AMD driver support has improved.Originally Posted by Imglidinhere
I like how no one mentions the 8970M. It's about 10% slower than the 780M, and costs $250 less. Much more doable.Click to expand...
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From the research I have done, SAGER appears to be the only laptop that offers the 8970m with the Haswell cpu, unless I've overlooked. Originally, I was aiming 765m but SAGER caught my attention with their AWESOME prices for laptops equipped with the 770m & 780m. Going with a 8970m will cost $100 more than the 770m & $250 less than the 780m.Originally Posted by bombastinator
It's a great chip, but it usually comes with a mobile a10 processor, which is bluntly, awful. you see all kinds of cheap 7890s with a10s but the problem is the processor bottlenecks the system quite badly so they make poor gaming machines. If you can find an i5 or i7 with a 7890 go for it. I haven't seen one though.Click to expand...
Just gonna say I have a G73 from about...2 years ago now? The thing feels premium, not like 10 grand premium but its certainly better than some plastic ones I've used. The cooling is amazing, under full load playing the latest games I can actually hear myself talking. The fans are never supersonic and doesn't bother my ears at all.
The design of the chassis is what caught my attention. Then it was the cooling, which is still awesome after 2 years of my abuse lugging it around everywhere. When it comes time for me to purchase a replacement for whatever reason, I'll be going straight for another G7x series.
I love it that much. I've looked into Sager and the other stuff. Cooling on them still bugs me, they're much more traditional and my experience with powerful laptops is that they tend to get very hot at certain spots unless the cooling is amazing. My old Asus N80vn had a vent on the right hand corner, every time my hand went near the keys around there like backspace I can feel the heat...that is something I've never experienced on my G73, even in hot summer days with no AC in the room.
Plus which guy doesn't want a laptop in the shape of a stealth fighter?!?
The design of the chassis is what caught my attention. Then it was the cooling, which is still awesome after 2 years of my abuse lugging it around everywhere. When it comes time for me to purchase a replacement for whatever reason, I'll be going straight for another G7x series.
I love it that much. I've looked into Sager and the other stuff. Cooling on them still bugs me, they're much more traditional and my experience with powerful laptops is that they tend to get very hot at certain spots unless the cooling is amazing. My old Asus N80vn had a vent on the right hand corner, every time my hand went near the keys around there like backspace I can feel the heat...that is something I've never experienced on my G73, even in hot summer days with no AC in the room.
Plus which guy doesn't want a laptop in the shape of a stealth fighter?!?
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I bought mine for $1369 and thats just upgrading the gpu. My main issue is that the monitor is quite ****. maybe its just my standards. If you have any further questions feel free to ask.
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Funny you had mentioned the 8970m...I'm curious about it but concerned about AMD driver support. Although I have mainly used Nvidia gpu's for my desktop rigs, I don't mind going AMD with this laptop as long as AMD driver support has improved.
From the research I have done, SAGER appears to be the only laptop that offers the 8970m with the Haswell cpu, unless I've overlooked. Originally, I was aiming 765m but SAGER caught my attention with their AWESOME prices for laptops equipped with the 770m & 780m. Going with a 8970m will cost $100 more than the 770m & $250 less than the 780m.Click to expand...
I actually have a sager np8265 with radeon 8970m and an i7-4700mq. My first impressions is that the drivers were such a hassle to find and install. I currently use 13.11 beta drivers which are pretty stable. Personally I wouldve have gotten a gtx 780m but I my decision for amd was a jump of faith. Another thing is msi burner doesnt detect my drivers and skyrim doesnt detect the 8970m gpu.Originally Posted by bombastinator
hhhmmmm.... how much is this Sager with a 8970m and haswell and do you have a link? I just might buy me one.Click to expand...
I bought mine for $1369 and thats just upgrading the gpu. My main issue is that the monitor is quite ****. maybe its just my standards. If you have any further questions feel free to ask.